55 days to go…Mass appeal…The UK two doctor model and abortion consent: How does it work? (part 3)

55 days to go to Ireland’s referendum on abortion on May 25th where voters decide whether to repeal / remove the pro-life 8th amendment to the constitution which gives equal protection to mother and child, or to keep it.

The UK two doctor model of abortion consent: How does it work ?

(part 3)

Review: In parts 1 and 2, we looked at how a scandal was reported in early May 2014 in the Telegraph newspaper  (1) over the pre-signing of abortion consent forms by 67 doctors during on the spot checks by the Care Quality Commission / C.Q.C. or health watchdog in 2012. How a cross-party group of M.P.s reported it to the Metropolitan Police and Earl Howe the Health minister in the House of Lords had said prosecutions should result.

However the General Medical Council / G.M.C.,  found no case against the medics in  question and stated the police had examined two sample cases and felt there was no ground for prosecution. The G.M.C. accepted that the practice was unacceptable and broke the law but refused to identify any doctors or their roles as it was so widespread, also stating that no woman had been harmed in the cases identified and because clinical practice had changed so much since the abortion act.

They stated they had warned the doctors in question not to do it again and stated that the C.Q.C. watchdog had since established that it was no longer happening. They didn’t explain what they meant by clinical practice having changed so much. It was not clear from the Telegraph report or the G.M.C. response if patients were just being seen after the forms had been pre-signed (which would possibly risk oversights due to a sense of complacency in any consultation with a woman) or if the women simply hadn’t been seen at all by the 67 doctors.

The reaction of Earl Howe in the house of Lords and M.P. s seemed to suggest the latter rather than the former and the statement by the G.M.C. suggesting that pre-signing had been stamped out in follow ups by the health watchdog / C.Q.C., suggested that women were now being seen in consultation and consented in proper order by abortionists as per the 1967 abortion act.

But within a fortnight the Telegraph reported a statement that the U.K. Dept. of Health issued, (2) that doctors could consult with a woman seeking an abortion by phone or Skype.

Most significantly, the Dept. stated that in fact under the 1967 act there was absolutely no obligation on doctors to see a woman prior to an abortion. That while it was good practice, it was not mandatory. The option to Skype a woman before an abortion no doubt to facilitate more interaction between doctor and patient did not suggest consultations in person were always happening if at all.

Just two weeks after the G.M.C.’s public reassurance that pre-signing had been stamped out, the statement by Dept. of Health, suggested the G.M.C. absolutely knew that the doctors were not seeing women before abortions, but that there no issue with that per se. So if there was no issue with the 67 doctors not seeing women prior to abortions, what does pre-signing of consent forms mean if not, failing to see a patient before a procedure? Wasn’t the furore because it was understood a woman should be seen by two medics or even by one and the second doctor approved the consent under the abortion act?

If this was the widespread practice that had changed radically since the 1967 act, the G.M.C. had adopted the position of not explaining this. It seems coy to read the initial Telegraph report. Surely the G.M.C. and possibly the Telegraph knew that if one believes the abortion act requires a woman to be assessed in good faith by at least one doctor, that the  G.M.C. intervention was open to the interpretation that women were now being seen by doctors if not before though of course they never directly said that. Just that there would be no censure because of changes in clinical practice without explanation. Perhaps this was rather than add fuel to the fire and escalate the scandal.

Probably under pressure from abortion providers, the D.O.H. decided to control the information flow, take the bull by the horns and effectively exonerate the practice of not seeing women prior to abortion as it was creating bad press for abortion providers and the industry.

There therefore appeared to be lack of clarity between the position of the G.M.C. who were insisting that consent forms not be pre-signed and the position of the D.O.H. which stated publicly, that there was no onus at all on abortionists to see a woman beforehand

Part 3:

The puzzle:

The timing, a fortnight after the negative publicity for abortion providers in the UK,  seemed to be a direct response to the pre-signing scandal though the G.M.C. findings were not mentioned directly by the D.O.H. in the article.

Without mentioning them directly, the 67 medics the C.Q.C. / health watchdog had found guilty of pre-signing consent forms, were effectively cleared of any implication that they’d failed in their duties as doctors.  Even if  on a technicality they’d breached the law because the law according to the article did not oblige doctors to see a woman pre-procedure. The D.O.H. were baldly stating women do not need to be seen under the law.

But how was the law technically broken if it did not mean failing to see a woman?  Also, accepting that the D.O.H. just considered it to be ‘good practice’ for a medic to see a woman before an abortion,  is this happening at any frequency now in the UK? What happens to the woman? 

This is important as a  two-doctor model is being proposed here in Ireland for abortions after 12 weeks, at least mid-trimester and depending on what the government are saying at any one time, final trimester of pregnancy.  (They haven’t got their story straight yet).

The two biggest private providers BPAS and Marie Stopes UK account for almost 7/10 of the 185,000 annual abortions in the UK paid for by the NHS, with the NHS accounting for almost 3/10, no doubt done through GP referrals (Only 2% are done privately).(3):

Often the first point of contact is a call to an abortion provider, usually a BPAS or Marie Stopes call agent, who as that first point of contact is trained to work to a script and need not have a  medical background. According to the NHS guide to abortion (4), a woman, if she wishes to, may see a trained counsellor.

If the decision for the abortion goes ahead, (with or without further counselling following that phonecall), then it appears that the woman is seen by a nurse or doctor and consent may be obtained at that time by one or other from NHS guidelines and the abortion can be done same day.

What is clear is that a nurse consents the patient but a doctor must sign-off on the consent form for the overall procedure without having to see the patient prior to the abortion. The 67 doctors in 2012 broke the law by signing the consent form before the nurses went through the form with the woman.

On reading the Quality Report for BPAS Slough (5) and others by the Care Quality Commission watchdog, in 2017, it’s clear that nurses or midwives consent the women. Equally a review of Marie Stopes’ practice (6) in February 2017 shows that: “A review of the provider’s abortion policy indicated that registered nurses could obtain consent providing they had attended consent training and had this competency signed off, by a clinical operations manager, a clinical team leader and/or a doctor”.

According to the BPAS report, paperwork would then be submitted to a doctor on site, who would assess the consent form and okay it / sign or be free to request more information. The ’67 act however stipulates that a second doctor must sign the consent form. The CQC report stated: “If a second doctor was available on site, they would review the  information and similarly authorise the HSA1 (government abortion form that must be filled in) as the second doctor or decline and request further information. If a second doctor was not available on site, BPAS used the electronic central authorisation system to ensure information and the HSA1 form was accessible and signed by doctors located at other BPAS units.”

The second doctor must agree that the ground for abortion is the same as the first even if they are off-site in another clinic from the information in the consent form the nurse sends through. If >1 or different grounds are found for the abortion by both doctors they must liase and agree which ground the abortion is being authorised under. Otherwise why would they liaise?

(7): BMA reference)

Ann Furedi for abortion provider BPAS in the second Telegraph article on Dept. of Health guidelines was quoted as saying: “Recently, doctors providing abortion services have felt under intense political scrutiny, and this document should give them the reassurance that neither the law nor regulations have changed to accommodate those who think their work is wrong.  The law impedes best practice.There is no clinical need for two doctors to certify a woman’s reasons for abortion, in addition to obtaining her consent, it simply causes delays. Bpas trusts women to make responsible choices and Bpas doctors comply with the law.”

Also in the same Telegraph article on the Dept of Health guidelines, came a somewhat surreal contribution from Public Health Minister Jane Ellison who said: “This brings clarity to abortion care. Throughout its development we’ve worked closely with medical professional bodies and consulted the Crown Prosecution Service to provide clear guidance to clinicians about their roles and responsibilities under the law so that they can continue to provide the best possible care for women.”

Further mandating of the zero doctor model masquerading as a two doctor model then came from the British Medical Association B.M.A. representing the medical profession itself which months later, in November 2014 issued its ‘Law and ethics of Abortion’ guide (8). In its introduction it states:

“The BMA has longstanding policy dating back to the 1970s and 80s supporting the Abortion Act 1967 as a practical and humane piece of legislation.” They outline the abortion act as follows:

Under the Act, a pregnancy can be lawfully terminated by a registered medical practitioner, in an NHS hospital or premises approved for this purpose, if two medical practitioners are of the opinion, formed in good faith etc etc etc.

It continues, “there is no legal requirement for the doctor to personally examine a woman seeking termination. Indeed, there is the option on the HSA1 (abortion) form for one or both of the doctors to certify that they have not seen or examined the woman. In 1981 the courts confirmed that abortion was a procedure carried out by a multi-disciplinary team, and that whilst the doctor should accept overall responsibility for all treatment with regard to a termination of pregnancy, they do not need to personally conduct every stage of the procedure, and can rely on information gathered by other members of their team in forming their opinion. Nevertheless, doctors must be satisfied that the conditions of the Abortion Act have been met.

They cite the D.O.H. guidelines: “Guidance from the Department of Health asserts that it considers pre-signing of forms “without subsequent consideration of any information relating to the woman” to be incompatible with the requirements of the Abortion Act.23”

So there it is. The consent forms may not be pre signed, but they must be post-signed where usually a nurse has consented the woman and they sign the form afterwards. At least by having the doctor have the responsibility of examining the completed consent form it opens the possiblity of dialogue with the nurse about any issues or even the woman herself though there be no requirement to see her. In fact, one imagines that the first line of defense for those who pre-signed the consent forms, was the fact that the abortion forms give abortionists the option to document that they did or didn’t see the woman. If the culture is so loose that it’s optional on the official documentation to say if one has or hasn’t seen the patient before an abortion, it must have been tempting or thought implicitly okay, to just cut to the chase in a busy clinic and  pre-sign the form, trusting a nurse will flag them if something comes up.

One potential consequence of that is sooner or later something can go wrong somewhere and it risks a nurse taking the flak  and the whole practice is then brought into question. To ensure the buck stops with the doctor ensures that if something does go wrong, it is an individual case and the whole practice can continue.

Did Earl Howe who called for prosecution in the House of  Lords and the cross-party M.P.s who went to the Metropolitan Police know that the pre-signing of consent form scandal was not problematic because of doctors not seeing patients but only because at stake was overseeing issues by medics and chain of command, or were they just uninformed? The careful wording of a response by the GMC would not debunk any misunderstanding. Only the Dept of Health statement did so.

Care Quality Commission (CQC) (2012). Findings of termination of pregnancy inspections published. Press release, 12 Jul

(1): https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10807990/Pre-signing-abortion-forms-is-illegal-General-Medical-Council-admits.html

(2): https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/10851574/Abortion-doctors-can-consult-women-on-phone-or-via-Skype-guidance.html

(3): https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/report-on-abortion-statistics-in-england-and-wales-for-2016

(4): https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/abortion/what-happens/

(5)http://www.cqc.org.uk/sites/default/files/new_reports/AAAF9125.pdf / BPAS Slough Quality Report pg. 19, 23-24.

(6): https://www.cqc.org.uk/sites/default/files/new_reports/AAAG6589.pdfhttps://www.cqc.org.uk/sites/default/files/new_reports/AAAG6589.pdf   / Marie Stopes Interantional UK Quality Report 

(7): The law_and_ethics_of_abortion_BMA Views Nov 2014

 

56 days to go: Mass appeal & U.K. two Doctor model of abortion consent (part 2):

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56 days to go….

to Ireland’s referendum on abortion on May 25th where voters decide whether to repeal / remove the pro-life 8th amendment to the constitution which gives equal protection to mother and child, or to keep it.

This post is in two parts:

(1): SR BRIEGE MCKENNA’S APPEAL:

FOR MASSES FOR IRELAND AND FOR THE 8TH AMENDMENT.

Everyday, we promote Sr. Briege McKenna’s appeal for Masses to be said privately or publicly in parishes in reparation for Ireland’s turning from God and for protection of the 8th amendment. August last year in Knock, she said, ‘if Ireland votes for abortion, Ireland is lost.’ Please consider getting Masses said locally or through this link to ACN:

http://www.acnireland.org/masses or call 018377516.

Alternatively Human Life International Ireland have a 1000 Mass campaign for protection of the unborn and reparation for Ireland’s turning from God…

https://humanlife.ie/1000masses/community/add

Most importantly: can you with other parishioners organise one or more Masses / half-days or days of prayer with medically safe fasting in your parish?

(2): THE TWO DOCTOR MODEL & THE UK: HOW DOES IT WORK: PART 2: 

Review: Part 1 / yesterday’s post, covered the 2014 scandal of the pre-signing of consent forms and the decision by the UK General Medical Council / GMC and the police not to pursue any of 67 doctors who had been caught in the practice (1):

The reasons given were three-fold:

(a): the practice was so widespread (two interpretations are possible:  the GMC either didn’t want to go after 67 doctors as that was too many to deal with (!) or the GMC recognised that the 67 doctors were just the ones that got caught and making an example of them would be unfair if everyone was doing it.

(b): no woman was harmed by any of the 67 doctors (they didn’t comment on whether women had been harmed in the past. It’s wasn’t very clear either but it’s implied, that the pre-signing of consent forms meant that the patients in question never saw a doctor, or they’d seen them but after the fact to get the admin out the way, exposing the patient to the potential risk of not being seen or the consultation being  perfunctory and formulaic).

(c): it was because of big changes in UK abortion clinical practice since the 1967 act.

It appears that by 2014, the act, was considered effectively outdated and clinical practice had moved on.  The article in the Telegraph doesn’t mention anyone asking the G.M.C. to clarify what they meant by this as grounds for not penalising any medic involved in pre-signing because it was so obvious and self-evident that there really wasn’t anything to ask. Clinical practice which broke the law on two doctor consent had changed and that’s why the GMC didn’t want to pursue anyone specifically. No one could be held accountable.  It was basically okay. No explanation was offered for when or why that began or for how long but it appears to be long-standing.

This becomes interesting for us in Ireland because we are supposed to be reassured that the two doctor model is going to act as a filter / safeguard to abortions post 12 weeks in government proposals,  as an Irish unborn baby now has zero protection in law, following the recent Irish supreme court decision not to confer any rights on the unborn other than the all or nothing protection of the 8th.  Once the 8th goes, there is no protection to birth other than the 24 week  ban that even government ministers are interpreting differently.

What was the response of the U.K. Department of Health  / D.O.H.?

On May 25th 2014, just 11 days after the Telegraph had reported the G.M.C.’s refusal to call anyone to account over the scandal, the same paper (2) reported that the D.O.H. had issued public guidelines that doctors could consent a woman by Skype or over the phone.The guidelines on behalf of the British government, went on to say that the 1967 law states that doctors should consider the individual case but not necessarily see each woman. However they agreed that it would be ‘good practice’ that one doctor should see the woman or at least talk to her on the phone.

They continued:

“Although there is no legal requirement for at least one of the certifying doctors to have seen the pregnant woman before reaching a decision about a termination, the Department’s view is that it is good practice for this to be the case. It is recognised however that, with technological advances, this may well mean that a doctor does not physically see the woman, e.g. there could be a discussion by phone or over a webcam.”

No legal requirement? What was all the fuss about then? Why were the G.M.C. or the police even involved?  Yesterday we commented that the Telegraph reported that Earl Howe, the health minister had said prosecutions should happen in the Lords. M.P.s had been up in arms and had gone to the Metropolitan police force. Had they all got it wrong? Is that why they were ignored by police and G.M.C.?

The response / guidelines of the UK Dept of Health to the pre-signing consent scandal was to state that it’s always good practice for a woman to be seen by a doctor before an abortion but this not necessary under the ’67 act and if a doctor is to see her, to facilitate that good practice, that can be done by Skype.

While Skype consultations are now happening in medicine, the nub of the question is there is absolutely no requirement from UK Dept of Health guidelines for even one doctor to see a woman seeking abortion.

At first glance, this non-requirement to see a woman or even consult with her by phone / Skype flies in the face of the 1967 act or at least the interpretation of the inspectors from the health watchdog’, the Care Quality Commission C.Q.C. who made the discoveries.

How does one reconcile that pre-signing of abortion consent forms by doctors is illegal yet there is zero requirement for them to see a woman before the procedure? Which or who is correct?

Does it make the earlier statements by Mr. Dickson, the Chief executive and registrar of the G.M.C. completely superfluous?  He was stamping out an illegal practice but within the month the Dept of Health had okayed it.

Two pieces of apparently conflicting advice one from the G.M.C., one from the D.O.H. within a fortnight. Was this envisaged when the 1967 act when drawn up? What are the implications for Ireland?

Part 3 of the two doctor model is tomorrow: the practice on the ground…

(1): https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10807990/Pre-signing-abortion-forms-is-illegal-General-Medical-Council-admits.html

(2): https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/10851574/Abortion-doctors-can-consult-women-on-phone-or-via-Skype-guidance.html

57 days to go….Mass appeal….the two doctor model of abortion (part 1)

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to Ireland’s referendum on abortion on May 25th where voters decide whether to repeal / remove the pro-life 8th amendment to the constitution which gives equal protection to mother and child, or to keep it.

This post is in two parts:

(1): SR BRIEGE MCKENNA’S APPEAL: FOR MASSES FOR IRELAND AND FOR THE 8TH AMENDMENT.

(2): THE TWO DOCTOR MODEL AND THE UK: HOW DOES IT WORK: PART 1?

(1): SR BRIEGE MCKENNA’S APPEAL: FOR MASSES FOR IRELAND AND FOR THE 8TH AMENDMENT.

Everyday, we promote Sr. Briege McKenna’s appeal for Masses to be said privately or publicly in parishes in reparation for Ireland’s turning from God and for protection of the 8th amendment.  August last year in Knock, she said, ‘if Ireland votes for abortion, Ireland is lost.’ Please consider getting Masses said locally or through this link to ACN:

http://www.acnireland.org/masses or call 018377516.

Alternatively Human Life International Ireland have a 1000 Mass campaign for protection of the unborn and reparation for Ireland’s turning from God…

https://humanlife.ie/1000masses/community/add

 Most importantly: can you with other parishioners organise one or more Masses / half-days or days of prayer with medically safe fasting in your parish?

 

(2): THE TWO DOCTOR MODEL AND THE UK: HOW DOES IT WORK?(part 1)

Under the 1967 Abortion Act, a pregnancy can be terminated legally if two doctors agree that the physical or mental health of the child or the woman is in jeopardy. The act makes clear that they must sign to certify that they formed the opinion “in good faith”.

In 2014, a story broke in the UK on May 5th 2014, on the scandal of pre-signing of consent forms for abortions. It emerged that the Care Quality Commission, the health watchdog, tasked with checks on hospitals and clinics, had discovered that up to 70 doctors in a series of checks they made on abortion providers, had pre-signed consent forms which is against the 1967 act. Of note, the practice only came to light because of an exposé of gender selective abortions by the Telegraph newspaper.  . (1):

A cross-party group of MPs wrote to the Metropolitan Police Commissioner asking for a criminal investigation following a statement by the health minister Earl Howe in the House of Lords that there should be prosecution. In their letter, the MPs stated: “As it is impossible to come to a medical judgment without knowing any of the details of a patient’s case, pre-signing is considered illegal.”

Niall Dickson, chief executive and registrar of the GMC / General Medical Council, said the 67 physicians were acting “against the law” but insisted no patients had come to harm as a result. He claimed the practice of pre-signing the forms had become widespread but was “unacceptable” and vowed to “bring this unlawful and unacceptable practice to an end”.

Mr. Dickson, also said this was partly due towide-reaching changes in clinical practice’ since the 1967 Act was drawn up.

He said the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) had looked into two pre-signing cases and concluded it was not in the public interest to pursue the individuals concerned.

The GMC refused to bring any Fitness to Practice hearings as it was felt the practice was so widespread and that no one had in fact been harmed in the cases mentioned. So it refused to name the doctors or describe their positions. Mr. Dickson further stated:

 “We demanded and obtained assurances from all the doctors identified in the inspections that they would no longer pre-sign these forms. We also made it clear that there would be severe consequences if doctors ignored our guidance in this area. Inspections by the Care Quality Commission since that investigation took place have found that the practice has now stopped.”

So checks by the Care Quality Commission / CQC, suggest that the practice of pre-signing of consent forms by doctors has stopped. That would suggest to many that before the woman consents to the procedure, the doctor has not already signed the consent form without bothering to see her.

One might now be assured in reports by the CQC on different abortion facilities that women are finally being seen again by two doctors who determine that their health is in jeopardy mentally or physically ‘in good faith’ before consenting her.

No doubt, if the above scandal was raised by the pro-life lobby here in Ireland, it would be pointed out that the system of checks and balances is in fact working in the UK as the abuse was picked up and stopped and that in any case the UK is another jurisdiction.”

What the response of the UK government and abortion providers were to the GMC rebukes is tomorrow’s post….

(1): https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10807990/Pre-signing-abortion-forms-is-illegal-General-Medical-Council-admits.html

 

58 days to go…Mass appeal…did our obstetricians pay a price?

to Ireland’s referendum on abortion on May 25th where voters decide whether to repeal / remove the pro-life 8th amendment to the constitution which gives equal protection to mother and child, or to keep it.

This post is in two parts:

(1): SR BRIEGE MCKENNA’S APPEAL: FOR MASSES FOR IRELAND AND FOR THE 8TH AMENDMENT.

(2): HOW MANY OF OUR OBSTETRICIANS HAVE PERFORMED ABORTIONS AS PART OF THEIR TRAINING?

(1): SR BRIEGE MCKENNA’S APPEAL FOR MASSES FOR THE 8TH AND FOR IRELAND:

Everyday, we promote Sr. Briege McKenna’s appeal for Masses to be said privately or publicly in parishes in reparation for Ireland’s turning from God and for protection of the 8th amendment.  August last year in Knock, she said, ‘if Ireland votes for abortion, Ireland is lost.’ Please consider getting Masses said locally or through this link to ACN:
http://www.acnireland.org/masses or call 018377516.

Alternatively Human Life International Ireland have a 1000 Mass campaign for protection of the unborn and reparation for Ireland’s turning from God…

https://humanlife.ie/1000masses/community/add

 Most importantly: can you with other parishioners organise one or more Masses / half-days or days of prayer with medically safe fasting in your parish?

(2): DID OUR OBSTETRICIANS PAY A PRICE?

A lot of the push for abortion to date has come from some high profile obstetricians associated with Holles St. Hospital and the Rotunda.

Their evidence and interviews have helped the repeal cause and done great damage to the 8th amendment. They remained circumspect on the issue of abortion when first appointed.

One question I haven’t heard anyone ask them is if they performed abortions as part of their training. That training most often occurs abroad, usually in the US and UK where there are liberal abortion regimes. That’s relevant surely as they gave expert witness testimony to the oireachtais / cross-party health group on abortion  or the ‘Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill’ in 2013 and now most recently when the group was examining what proposals to recommend to government concerning the 8th. Were they asked?

The obstetricians might have refused to answer that question in the past. Perhaps they would still, though they likely now would be lauded by the media if they answered in the affirmative.  Perhaps now they would say that of course they did always acted in the interest of the woman and her wishes and refuse to be drawn further. Perhaps they would limit themselves to describing terminating pregnancies to save the life of the mother. But what about the other grounds; did they perform abortions on other grounds? Routinely?

If so, were they done on mental or physical health grounds in the UK or the US where they trained or what exactly was the ground? For example in the UK, 98% of almost 9 million social abortions to date have been done under ground C the mental health risk ground. So did those who trained in the UK, routinely do them there? If so, did they have a cut-off point where they would or wouldn’t perform them? I remember watching a documentary on abortion years ago and an obstetrician stated that after 23 weeks she wouldn’t perform an abortion as it got too close to being a baby kind of thing.

I also remember being a party to a conversation with a trainee obstetrician years ago.  She was asked about her opinion on abortion. She said she wouldn’t perform them. She had been a registrar in training on a higher training scheme in the UK and had come back to Ireland. She said she’d limited herself to writing up the drugs and inserting the laminaria, the seaweed based pessary which was used to start the dilation of the cervix so that instruments can be passed more easily into the uterus and reduce the risk of laceration to the cervix. She said she drew the line at scrubbing in and performing the abortion.

For her, scrubbing in and performing or assisting at an abortion was a step too far and while she knew the prescribing and the insertion of the pessary was part of the abortion procedure too, she had made a decision to not perform the surgical part.

She was asked did she feel that this had gone against her. She said that it had and then the conversation moved on.

I imagine it did not go down well with a consultant obstetrician, that he or she was down one member of the team in theatre because of this woman’s position of refusing to perform an abortion: presumably they would have to either arrange alternative cover or schedule the list in a way that gave her training experience in all other procedures except for abortions in a busy gynaecological theatre in a NHS hospital.

It occurred to me that she was willing to take the flak even for the stance she had taken which was brave of her even though she should have refused to assist with the laminaria etc and while that position appears to have been tolerated in her case because she had invoked a right, that of conscientious objection, she knew everyday that there were others, also eager to succeed, who had no issue with performing abortions and keeping their masters literally happy.

There might have been some who respected her decision but still, she was potentially jeopardising her career, as the Irish doctor, not born or trained there,  probably now tarred with a label of extreme beliefs that were out of step with the times, suspected of letting her religion dictate to her,  even if that didn’t actually factor in her decision (which it probably didn’t though that was not discussed) and at the end of the day, she needed their reference.

I have no idea if at interview level for senior training positions abroad where most of the current consultant obstetricians trained, if they were / are now, questioned on their position on abortion. I don’t know if it is just assumed they will perform the routine list which includes terminations of pregnancy. I imagine it is as they are after all applying for a role in a country with a liberal regime. When in Rome…

I am  sure that there are a number of trainee obstetricians who having moved on in their specialist training out of Ireland are suddenly exposed to a decision in this regard. Many may have no issue with it and feel it is just another procedure and a necessary part of the job and dive right in.

Some may have reservations and suddenly in a new role in a new environment, face the prospect of having to tell the new boss that they haven’t performed an abortion before and if it’s okay, they’d prefer not to…if that could be accommodated?

Might they then have difficult conversations in the new job, perhaps being asked why they didn’t reveal this at interview? Assuming they weren’t asked outright?

But ultimately I imagine anyone who did or does object to performing abortions, either has to disclose that at interview and risk losing the position or in ‘don’t ask don’t tell mode’, they wait until they are sure of the job but have to then face telling the boss.  Who might question if they deliberately did not disclose that fact to get the job.

The same doctor who refused to perform abortions said she had interviewed for a job and after getting and signing the contract, immediately then informed the consultant that she was now how ever many months pregnant and he’d need to get cracking on providing maternity cover for her. She wasn’t taking any chances as she knew legally it was water tight though how these things go against someone are unclear if at all in other ways.

I wonder how many of our obstetricians who are pro-choice, dived in and just got on with it and how many who went abroad, invoked in some capacity, conscientious objection rights that would have earned them no admiration from specialists who routinely in their public and private practice perform abortions without any apparent backward glance.

Did any of the older guard refuse to perform abortions but now, have ‘evolved’ like the politicians e.g. Leo and the two Simons? Or to coin a phrase that Dr. Peter Boylan has used on radio, they ‘grew up’?

 

59 days to go….Mass appeal….opposition leader Micheál Martin: The past is a foreign country

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to Ireland’s referendum on the 8th amendment to the Irish constitution which gives equal protection to mother and child and which it’s proposed will be replaced with unrestricted no questions asked medical abortion to 12 weeks and to birth for life limiting conditions (so called fatal foetal abnormalities). And as of today an Irish version of British abortion law: a ban on abortions post viability / 24 weeks.

This post is in 3 parts:

(1): Sr. Briege McKenna’s appeal for Masses for Ireland and protection of the 8th.

(2): As of today, abortions after viability, so after 24 weeks will now be banned.

(3): Opposition leader Micheál Martin: The past is a foreign country:

His overseeing of at least 3 million euros for abortions in Ethiopia.

(1): SR BRIEGE MCKENNA’S APPEAL:

FOR MASSES FOR IRELAND AND FOR THE 8TH AMENDMENT.

Everyday, we promote Sr. Briege McKenna’s appeal for Masses to be said privately or publicly in parishes in reparation for Ireland’s turning from God and for protection of the 8th amendment. Please consider getting Masses said locally or through this link to ACN:
http://www.acnireland.org/masses or call 018377516.

Alternatively Human Life International Ireland have a 1000 Mass campaign for protection of the unborn and reparation for Ireland’s turning from God

https://humanlife.ie/1000masses/community/add

 Most importantly: can you with other parishioners organise one or more Masses / half-days or days of prayer with medically safe fasting in your parish?

(2):  A CYNICAL MOVE: Ban of abortions to viability:

The latest as of today: the Irish government has had to back-step on the campaign for total decriminalisation of abortion to birth. There will now apparently be a ban on abortions on mental / physical health grounds past the point of viability so 23 / 24 weeks.

This is an amendment to try to push the repeal vote, which in opinion polls had dropped by 10 points last week, which is quite a drop in one week. Previously the government proposed that after 12 weeks, abortions could be done on mental / physical health risk grounds with no upper limit. Of course, prior to today’s announcement, the government was stating that abortions after 12 weeks, would have to be signed off by two doctors and the matter then would be decided between the doctors and the woman and then according to best medical practice.

Another reason this could have happened is because of a report by Eilis O’ Regan in the Irish Independent,  showing 83 Irish women aborted Down’s babies after 24 weeks in the UK over a 2 week period. Simon Harris who’d previously stated it was offensive to even suggest Irish women would abort babies for Down’s syndrome at all,  had to climb down and say that the women in question wouldn’t have taken the decision lightly. But it all made for uncomfortable reading and so the first obviously reluctant limitation to offset further fall out in the opinion polls: a time limit of viability and a ban on abortions above this limit. If under the ubiquitous mental health risk (used and abused to justify almost 9  million social abortions in the UK) abortions in Ireland are not now done by 24 weeks, well it won’t be Varadkar or Harris’ fault.

(3): MICHEÁL MARTIN’S PRO-CHOICE PAST: A REVIEW AND HIS DIRECT FUNDING OF ABORTIONS IN ETHIOPIA:

REVIEW: Yesterday we looked at Micheál Martin’s volte face on the abortion issue (at least publicly) and his total disregard for his party colleagues whom he’d met with the night before his speech on the matter of the 8th amendment. They were not informed of his conversion to unrestricted abortion, save perhaps for those five members, whom he appointed to the oireachtais / cross-party parliamentary committee on abortion, who voted to repeal or replace the 8th to greater or lesser degrees.

Despite the overwhelming vote to save the 8th at the AGM October last year by rank and file members (see photo from yesterday) and the previous public statements by most Fianna Fail elected representatives that they were pro-life, Martin nominated five who were in favour of allowing for abortion in at least limited circumstances to the committee which would require replacing / repealing the 8th.

Yesterday we also noted, that as far back as 2013 during the vote on the so called ‘Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill’ to permit abortion under the x case for suicidal ideation/ threats (despite the complete absence of any medical evidence to back that up),  Martin and his second in command, pro-abortion Billy Kelleher, attempted to impose the whip / remove a free vote like the then Taoiseach / Prime Minister Enda Kenny did on his Fine Gael elected representatives.

When the members revolted at a meeting of the parliamentary party and the party whip and others threatened to walk if he pushed them to vote one way or the other on the bill ( the official party position was pro-life), he had to resort to plan B: allow FF members of parliament to vote according to their conscience and present it as the leader with high moral ground in contrast to Enda Kenny’s dictatorship where 4 dissenting Fine Gael members were thrown out of the party for voting against abortion.

Bear in mind, Martin’s public statements and to his party membership both before and after the 2013 vote to permit abortion for suicidal ideation in Ireland have always been pro-life.

Yet thousands of abortions took place with direct funding from the Irish tax-payer under Martin unbeknown to most Irish people and it seems most of his own party.

When Martin was Minister for Foreign Affairs, he oversaw the continued granting of oversees aid to two of Ethiopia’s biggest abortion providers.

Between 2005 and 2012, Irish Aid gave over €8.5m to two of Ethiopia’s biggest abortion providers. But when questioned about its policy, Irish Aid back in 2013 said: “We don’t provide any funding to those whose focus is to provide abortion services as this would be against government policy.” The two biggest abortion providers were: The Family Guidance Association of Ethiopia (FGAE) and DKT Ethiopia.

(a): The Family Guidance Association of Ethiopia (FGAE), which got €2.7m from Irish Aid / Irish oversees aid (Irish taxpayer’s money) between 2008 and 2012, lists the provision of “safe abortion services” as one of its “major focus areas”. The agency, which provided 50,000 abortions in 2011 alone, funded its abortion services from its “unrestricted funding”.

The person with responsibility for signing off on these grants which are very significant both in terms of amount and what the money was being used for, was the minister for Foreign Affairs. The Minister for Foreign Affairs between 7th May 2008 and 19th January 2011 was Micheál Martin. Dermot Aherne also from the Fianna Fail party, now retired from politics preceded Martin.

The Family Guidance Association of Ethiopia confirmed that the Irish Aid funds had been “unrestricted” before 2012. By 2011, Irish Aid provided some 10 per cent of FGAE’S  “unrestricted funding”. In 2011, the Irish Embassy in Addis Ababa finally sought confirmation that Irish Aid funds would not be used for “abortion-related activities”. FGAE responded: “We confirmed same in writing to the embassy before year 2012.”This request for funds not to be used for abortions directly was most likely not at the request of Martin who left Foreign Affairs 19th January 2011.

(b): Martin did however request that funds not be used for direct abortion in early 2010 to the other major abortion provider DKT Ethiopia. DKT Ethiopia, the biggest supplier of medical abortion kits to the Ethiopian government, received €4.8m in the period 2005 to 2009, most of that time under Dermot Ahearne. By 2012 the sum total given to DKT Ethiopia, was €5.8m. Almost 10 per cent of its total donor support came from Irish Aid in the period 2005 to 2012. While most of it was under Dermot Ahearne, the 2.7 million euros to FGAE was mostly under Martin and it’s likely at least a million to DKT Ethiopia was also during Martin’s tenure in Foreign Affairs. Why Martin asked DKT Ethiopia to ensure money received was not used for direct abortions in 2010 when they at that point appear to have been receiving less  that the swathes under Dermot Ahern and did not ask FGAE between 2008 and 2011 is unclear. In any case, the clarifications were  all window-dressing.

International Planned Parenthood, the umbrella body for all abortion providers worldwide in a report in 2012, stated that asking FGAE in 2011 for money not to be used directly for abortion was “artificial”.  Which of course it was. If you give 2.7 million euros to a reproductive health N.G.O. which cites safe abortion services as one of its major focus areas with no conditions attached to that funding and then belatedly ask abortion providers that any future money not be used in direct provision of abortion, they must have smiled.

International Planned Parenthoood, in fact incredibly stated that core funders, such as Irish Aid, were “making a significant direct impact [on sexual health service provision] particularly in the areas of access to safe abortion”. Micheál Martin was Foreign Affairs Minister from 2008 to 2011, when much of the Irish Aid funding was paid to the Ethiopian abortion providers.

Martin and Fianna Fail reaffirmed its “pro-life” position at its 2013 Ard Fheis but as we know, he voted for the Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill, having had to give a free vote to his colleagues, on whom he’d been unable to impose the party whip to vote for abortion for suicidal ideation.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/irish-cash-for-abortion-aid-agencies-in-ethiopia-29330913.html

60 days to go….Mass appeal…opposition leader Micheál Martin: The pragmatism and pro-choice rumblings.

to May 25th and Ireland’s referendum on whether or not to repeal the pro-life 8th amendment to the constitution which uniquely gives equal protection to mother and child and replace it with the oireachtais / parliamentary cross-party committee on health.

Everyday, we promote Sr. Briege McKenna’s appeal for Masses to be said privately or publicly in parishes in reparation for Ireland’s turning from God and for protection of the 8th amendment. Please consider getting Masses said locally or through this link to ACN:
http://www.acnireland.org/masses or call 018377516.

 Alternatively can you with other parishioners organise one or more Masses / half-days or days of prayer with medically safe fasting?

THE PRAGMATISM AND PRO CHOICE RUMBLINGS OF OPPOSITION LEADER MICHEÁL MARTIN OF FIANNA FAIL:

Yesterday Simon Harris, minister for Health’s capacity to ‘evolve’ on the issue of abortion was discussed. The biggest shock in terms of U turning on this issue or ‘evolving’ as the politicians are insisting on calling it, however was the opposition leader of Fianna Fáil: Micheál Martin.

Micheál Martin as leader of FF, whose stance has always been pro-life, shocked colleagues and gained kudos from journalists who are almost invariably pro-choice by stating in the Dáil / Irish parliament, that he was in favour of abortion.

On 18th January this year, Martin stated that the oireachtais cross-party parliamentary committee on abortion “carried out its work well and it was appropriate that it sought to concentrate on expert evidence. At the fact finding stage of a debate, this is the right thing to do, rather than emphasise the advocacy which can so often prevent real debate later on.”

(The no of experts who were pro-choice to pro-life was about 6: 1).

He went onto say: “We must each question how far we are willing to go to impose our personal beliefs on others. Over the years I have been on the record as being against a significant change in our abortion laws.  I have done so from a belief that this was the most effective way of affirming the importance of the unborn.  While I have supported different proposals to clarify the law and to address the threat to the life of the mother I have been broadly in favour of the law as enabled by the 8th Amendment. If our views change, if the facts become clearer, if we come to understand properly the impact of a policy on others, then we must be willing to act accordingly. Noone can dispute the fact that thousands of Irish women have an abortion every year. ”

One imagines at this point, his own FF colleagues in the chamber were wondering where on earth this was going. There was no surprise however on the faces of those whom he’d selected to represent the rank and file FF membership on the Oireachtais / cross-parliamentary party meeting which had overwhelmingly voted for abortion, who were  sitting right next to him during his speech: Lisa Chambers, Anne Rabbite and Billy Kelleher. Along with two others, Noel O Sullivan and Jim Brown all 5 FF T.D.S voted in the end, to repeal / replace the 8th to greater or lesser degrees and in so doing went completely against the significant majority of FF root and branch members at their AGM or Ard Fheis who had voted in October last year to keep the 8th (see photo above).

Martin in so doing, stunned his own colleagues:  at a parliamentary party meeting, just the day before, the majority of FF T.D.s / elected representatives, had agreed that their position would be to retain the 8th. Martin had said nothing at all about the bombshell he was just about to land…

Martin further spoke about both women who travel, the negative impact on them of the travel and the wide availability of abortion pills online which he said would not change. He continued:

“It is untrue to say that the issue before us is whether there will be abortion in Ireland or not. The 8th amendment does not mean that Ireland is a country without abortion.”

Citing the fact that different European countries have different abortion regimes, Martin stated:

“there appears to be no sound basis for pointing to other countries and saying that Ireland will become like them by changing its laws.” He stated that evidence suggested that liberalising abortion laws has actually reduced abortions. That the 8th amendment was intended to give certainty but the number of cases that had gone to court showed that not to be the case.

As if challenges to pro-life laws by pro-choicers indicated the amendment was therefore inherently unsafe and as if challenges suggested it was therefore deficient.

He then praised the chairperson of the Institute of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Dr. Peter Boylan who has appeared at Labour party press conferences calling for repeal of the 8th. Dr. Boylan said the 8th caused “significant difficulties for doctors practicing in Ireland and has caused grave harm to women, including death.” Dr. Boylan has gone on record that Savita Halappanavar could have been saved but for the 8th. Martin continued: “In the inquiry into her death the current law stood indicted for leading to a situation where her care was not as responsive or urgent as it should have been.”

This in spite of the fact that 3 independent enquiries established Savita died due to a series of oversights in care and a highly resistant bug that had not been seen before in maternity hospitals here and that different experts including the head of the corresponding obstetric professional body in India had pointed out that aborting Savita’s baby on request, could have potentially spread the infection and killer her even sooner.

Martin then insisted on using the term ‘fatal fetal abnormality’ which families of those babies who died of life limiting conditions have repeatedly asked not be used. He spoke about the potentially devastating impact of having to carry such a baby to term could have. Also about similar damage to rape / incest victims.

Martin then explained: ” The law as it stands denies them (women) the comfort of basic respect and humanity” , by which he meant abortion access. He talked about criminal sanctions which had been introduced, which no pro-life group had requested as grounds for repealing the 8th.

He further stated that claims that the 2013 Protection of Life during pregnancy bill, would allow the introduction of UK-style laws had been fully disproven.

The concern among pro-lifers that that 2013 act would just be the beginning step of a slippery slope to abortion on demand was ironically coming true even while he was speaking.  Martin preferred to make the point that because we weren’t there yet, where yet is abortion on demand,  there was no reason to suppose it would eventually happen while actively pushing to make that an ever closer reality.

THE PAST IS A FOREIGN COUNTRY….

He himself had publicly stated more than once that he was coming from a pro-life perspective before his pro abortion speech from the dock January 18th this year where no mention of the unborn’s rights were made Martin had like Simon Harris and Leo Varadkar ‘evolved’.

In February 2013 Martin said that in cases of fatal foetal abnormality and rape he was not presently in favour of “broadening the base upon which termination can occur” pointing out that it would require changing the Constitution.

He also said that he would not favour widening legislation or changing the Constitution to include cases where a woman has become pregnant as a result of rape.

However, against many in his party he voted for the Protection of life during pregnancy act in 2013 and it was thought by political commentators, that the reason he allowed a free vote at the time of the 2013 act to permit abortion for suicidal ideation, which he voted in favour of along with Billy Kelleher, was because if he attempted to impose the whip the way then Taoiseach / Prime Minister Enda Kenny did, his chief whip Sean O Fearghail and others in the party would walk out. Perhaps memories of that occasion of not getting his way in 2013 and because he knew the uproar that would result, was one reason he didn’t bother to tell his colleagues what he was about to do.

As recently as the 2016 election, Martin consistently answered questions about abortion by asserting that he was anti-abortion and not in favour of a referendum. In May 2017, when asked by a radio host if, hypothetically, a woman who had been raped by her father should have the right to an abortion, Martin answered that it was not that simple, and recounted the tale of a person he knew who was conceived due to rape.

The day after his speech in the Dail, on the current affairs  ‘Today with Sean O’ Rourke’, show on RTE the Irish national radio station, Thomas Byrne, Meath East TD insisted that Martin would not suffer for having done a U turn and denied that the rug had been pulled out from under the party’s feet,  how everybody respected conscience. However other reports were of a lot of anger that colleagues had not been told in advance what to expect and were totally unprepared for it or negative reaction at constituency level from FF members. Deputy editor of the Irish Times Fiach Kelly agreed with Sean O Rourke that market research would likely have been a contributory factor for the turn around on all sides of the political spectrum although the particular RTE vox pop of Martin’s constituency suggested he wouldn’t suffer in the next election except perhaps from the older population. He also mentioned how an expert commentator at the Ard Fheis / AGM warned FF not to be on the wrong side of history on the 8th  and how he’d felt Martin had taken that view on board.

But it was while he was minister for Foreign affairs between 2008 and 2011, that thousands of abortions happened and on Martin’s watch…..

 

 

61 days to go…Mass appeal….The evolution of Simon Harris

to May 25th… and the referendum on whether to repeal the pro-life 8th amendment to the Irish constitution which gives equal right to life to mother and child in Ireland or replace it with unrestricted medical abortion to 12 weeks and abortion with no upper limit envisaged on mental / physical health risk grounds.

This post is in 3 parts:

(1): Sr. Briege McKenna’s appeal for Masses to be said for the 8th amendment to the Irish constitution.

(2): A review of the risk to Down’s babies before and after the unrestricted 12 week cut-off.

(3): The evolution of Minister for Health Simon Harris.

(1): Yesterday as with everyday, we mention Sr. Briege McKenna’s appeal for Masses to be said privately, or publicly in parishes in reparation for Ireland’s turning from God and for protection of the 8th amendment. Please consider getting Masses said locally or through this link to ACN:
http://www.acnireland.org/masses or call 01 837 7516. Alternatively can you with other parishioners organise one or more Masses / half-days or days of prayer and medically safe fasting, even from one meal a day? If you are organising something, can you let us know through the contact page and like and share us on the facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/irishunborn?

(2): Yesterday we discussed how non-invasive pre-natal testing or NIPT which is currently available privately only, may give a diagnosis of Down’s syndrome within the 12 week limit for unrestricted medical abortions proposed by the Irish government and how other European countries have already introduced NIPT into the public health system while the NHS in Britain are actively researching this possibility. Also, how there has been a series of criteria both included and excluded in government proposals for >12 week / later abortions, that will in fact allow abortions of Down’s syndrome babies despite the Irish government’s insistence that they will be exempted.  This insistence is because the pro-abortion campaign is concerned that the effort to repeal the pro-life 8th amendment would fail over this issue. They must have thought long and hard about it too.

The cocktail of criteria to in fact allow Down’s abortions after 12 weeks should the 8th be repealed are:

(i): permission for abortion under mental health risk grounds (the ground that if a pregnancy is unwanted, a woman is better off from a mental health point of view not continuing the pregnancy than having the baby: responsible for 98% of almost 9 million social UK abortions to date),

(ii): the absence of any penalty or upper limit for abortions in law ergo total decriminalisation  to full-term.

(iii): Abortion is actually just a medical procedure between a woman and two doctors: Having totally decriminalised abortion to full term, the public are supposed to be reassured, that two nominated doctors, will interact with women seeking later abortions (this was the same in the 1967 UK abortion act: a few years back there was a big scandal concerning the pre-signing of consent forms which was widespread. A decision was made not to censure never mind prosecute anyone and a warning made to stop pre-signing.  In any case, the Royal College of Obstericians and Gynaecologists recommend either a nurse or a doctor to obtain consent.  In reports by the Care Quality Commission with the two biggest abortion providers, a nurse obtains consent and a doctor checks the documentation afterwards and signs and if a 2nd doctor is not on site, the second signature can be done through by one at another clinic electronically

(iv): the absence of a ban on Down syndrome abortions in government proposals, which absence has been exploited in Germany to permit 90% of Down’s babies diagnosed, to be aborted there under the mental health risk ground despite Germany not having a ground for disability abortions. No ban, no protection.

(3): The Evolution of Simon Harris:

Yesterday we mused on whether it was possible that our politicians and in particular the minister for Health Simon Harris honestly believe that Down syndrome abortions will not happen under the proposed legislation if the 8th is removed.  We wondered whether some in parliament had convinced others less radically in favour of abortion that Down Sydrome babies would be exempt, all the while knowing that Down’s abortions are highly likely to happen with this legislation as per Germany.

However given politicians capacity for ‘evolving’ on this issue to use their own term (a euphemism for doing a total U turn to keep tight with the boss-man / perceived way the wind is blowing), even if they didn’t know before now  that Down’s abortions would occur here with their own proposed legislation, we can’t expect much from Minister of Health Simon Harris who just keeps evolving / spinning on this issue.

The evolution of Minister for Health Simon Harris.

Harris, showed his own cluelessness of the risk to future Irish Down syndrome babies when he stated recently that it was “offensive to suggest women in Ireland are seeking abortions on the grounds their babies will be born with disabilities like Down syndrome”. It’s not clear if he personally was offended at the suggestion or if he thought people in general would be appalled at the thought of disabled babies being aborted because they were disabled. But he clearly suggested that the practice was utterly outrageous. An affront to any decent Irish woman kind of thing.

Shortly afterwards, a report appeared by journalist Eilish O’ Regan in the ‘Irish Independent’ that over two years, 83 Irish women had travelled to the UK for abortions of Down syndrome babies over 24 weeks of pregnancy. There were no figures on how many were done between weeks 12 and 24 but it would be higher given that as Dr. Peter Boylan and other pro choicers keep saying, Down syndrome is diagnosed after the 12th week of pregnancy.

This shocking news resulted in Harris scrambling to recover when asked was he shocked. “I am not shocked by it at all.” he said. Women who have an abortion on the grounds their child will be born with Down syndrome are “not doing it lightly,” he then maintained. That wasn’t the journalist’s question but he decided to answer another imaginary question: ‘Do Irish women who terminate their Down syndrome babies after 24 weeks do it lightly?’ and there it lay as investigative journalists let him off the hook because he’s pro-choice.  Thus he appears to have ‘evolved’ yet again, having lost all outrage from about a minute earlier at the temerity of suggestions that Irish women do in fact seek abortions of Down’s babies, which he’d clearly felt was an outrageous aspersion on their character.

Previous evolutionary changes by Minister Harris: 

At a private meeting amongst colleagues, I raised concerns about legislating for abortion in Ireland, adding that should such a scenario arise, I would have grave difficulty supporting it.’

Fine Gael TD Simon Harris also sent an anxious e-mail in the final week of the election campaign assuring PLC [Pro Life Campaign] that: “I am happy and proud to assure you I am pro-life.”Mr Harris added the nervous plea of: “Please be assured of my support. I need No. 1 votes on Friday so I can be in a position to support these positions in Dáil Eireann (the Irish parliament).”

62 days to go….Mass appeal…Down’s abortions: No ground, no ban, no good.

to May 25th… and the referendum on whether to repeal the pro-life 8th amendment to the Irish constitution which gives equal right to life to mother and child in Ireland or replace it with unrestricted medical abortion to 12 weeks and abortion with no upper limit envisaged on mental / physical health risk grounds.

MASS APPEAL:

Yesterday as with everyday, we mention Sr. Briege McKenna’s appeal for Masses to be said privately, or publicly in parishes in reparation for Ireland’s turning from God and for protection of the 8th amendment. Please consider getting Masses said locally or through this link to ACN:
http://www.acnireland.org/masses or call 01 837 7516. Alternatively can you with other parishioners organise one or more Masses / half-days or days of prayer and medically safe fasting, even from one meal a day? If you are organising something, can you let us know through the contact page and like and share us on the facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/irishunborn?

DOWN’S ABORTIONS: NO GROUND, NO BAN, NO GOOD.

Yesterday we also looked at NIPT / non-invasive pre-natal testing, which private clinics are already offering in most countries, Ireland included, with ultrasound testing for about 450 euros. It’s non-invasive in that it is a simple blood test done at week 9 or 10 of pregnancy depending on the company used. If positive for Down’s syndrome, it is 99% accurate.  It’s been introduced as part of pre natal screening in Holland, Denmark,  Belgium and France and is being introduced in Germany next year. The Panorama test done at week 9, here is back before week 11 which falls in the 12 week limit proposed for unrestricted medical abortion. The Harmony test is done at week 10 but depending on the pre-natal private clinic, the result can be back by week 11 or 12. NIPT is not at present available publicly in Ireland though the national health service in the UK, is researching incorporating it in the UK into their public pre natal screening at present. This suggests that in addition to women who opt for unrestricted medical abortions who don’t know they’re carrying babies with Down’s, some abortions of Down’s babies diagnosed with NIPT here, may happen inside the 12 week medical abortion limit. But as the majority of Down’s diagnoses are after 12 weeks, the issue is:

Are Down syndrome babies at risk after 12 weeks of pregnancy under the current government proposals for abortion if the 8th is repealed?

The answer is they are.

The second reason pro choice activists argue that Down’s babies will not be aborted under government proposals is because of the absence of any specific ground for Down syndrome compared with the UK where ground E of the 1967 abortion act permits abortion even to birth for severe disability.

As we remarked yesterday, the absence of a ground for abortion of disabled babies diagnosed in the late 1st or into the 2nd trimester of pregnancy is meaningless as no specific ban is included in the proposals. No ban means no protection as is seen in Germany where there is neither ground nor ban but 9/10 Down’s babies diagnosed, are aborted on the all-embracing mental health risk argument which is also the one proposed in Ireland for applications to doctors for abortions after 12 weeks of pregnancy.

There appears to be a  perfect storm in the presence and absence of certain criteria for abortion after 12 weeks of pregnancy that gives a false impression Down’s babies will be exempted from abortion in Irish proposals. This exemption in spite of recommendations of the citizen’s assembly to permit Down’s abortions after 12 weeks, is designed to ensure the 8th is repealed. Clearly the pro choice camp are concerned that inclusion of Down’s abortions could lose the repeal movement for them.

(1): After 12 weeks, women can have abortions under the mental health risk ground (which is the ground for 98% of almost 9 million social abortions to date in the UK: where woman are deemed to be better off from a mental health viewpoint not continuing an unwanted pregnancy than continuing it)

(2): No upper limit in law: limits on gestation will be decided by nominated doctors / best medical practice which in the countries where most of the current obstetricians trained: the US and the UK,  are up to birth in certain circumstances to include disabilties including Down’s syndrome.

(3): No ground for abortion: a smokescreen / red herring argument cited as the reason why Down’s babies will not be aborted after 12 weeks here by pro choicers

(4): No specific ban on abortion for non-fatal disabilities: meaning Down’s babies. There is no mention of / a deafening silence by the government on the absence of a ban on abortions of non-fatal disabilites to include Down’s.

Again, in Germany, 9 /10 Down’s babies diagnosed in the womb are aborted with the current pre-natal testing procedures available. These are done on mental health grounds as no ground for abortion of disabled babies exists in Germany because of their history, but because no ban exists either, it’s possible to have Down’s babies diagnosed after 12 weeks aborted. (Germany is looking to introduce NIPT next year too which will likely pick up more Down’s babies that would have been missed with current testing or where it is equivocal.) What is the chance those wishing to abort Down’s pregnancies won’t push to have them done here, particularly with our Irish politicians capacity for evolution on the subject?

Is it possible that the all party oireachtais health committee are unaware of the above? It’s possible but unlikely, but there again some may have known but not mentioned the risk deliberately to others whom they wished to sway….

On a much happier note, as a follow up to the gorgeous viral video yesterday of 50 Mums and Down’s syndrome children singing and signing to Katy Perri’s ‘A Thousand Years’, here is the fantastic interview the mothers in the video gave to ITV’s ‘This Morning’ with Philip Schofield and Holly Willoughby. When asked what message they’d send to parents who’ve just been told their unborn baby has Down’s they say: ‘Don’t worry. If I knew then what I know now I would have enjoyed that day.’

63 days to go…Mass appeal…Down’s babies, N.I.P.T. and the 12 week limit.

to May 25th and the referendum on whether to repeal the pro-life 8th amendment to the Irish constitution which gives equal right to life to mother and child in Ireland.  Yesterday also, the parliament passed the second stage of its abortion proposals, just one day after world Down Syndrome day.

Yesterday as with everyday, we discussed Sr. Briege McKenna’s appeal for Masses to be said privately or publicly in parishes in reparation for Ireland’s turning from God and for protection of the 8th amendment. Please consider getting Masses said locally or through this link to ACN:
http://www.acnireland.org/masses or call 01 837 7516.

Alternatively can you with other parishioners organise one or more Masses / half-days or days of prayer?

DOWN’S BABIES, N.I.P.T. and the 12 week limit

Yesterday we discussed how two Down syndrome advocacy groups were in conflict over the use of images of Irish Down’s citizens featuring in billboard campaigns, their rationales for their opposing positions and how the screening out of Down’s looks set to continue apace with Iceland (100%), Denmark(98%), the UK and Germany (90%) leading the way in abortion rates of Down’s babies.

Dr. Peter Boylan consultant obstetrician who advocates for abortion publicly has gone on the record that Down’s babies will not be at risk of abortion with the government proposals, as the diagnosis of Down’s only happens in the 2nd trimester of pregnancy after the 12 week unrestricted limit on abortion. While screening for Down’s does happen in the first 12 weeks / trimester, he states that conclusive proof can only be obtained after 12 weeks which means that babies will not be specifically aborted on the basis of their Down’s diagnosis and will be safe.

Dr Boylan and other pro choice activists say babies with Down’s are not at risk of abortion before 12 weeks here as it’s too early for a diagnosis of Down’s and are not at risk of abortion after 12 weeks as the unrestricted abortion is only to 12 weeks and there is no ground after 12 weeks for abortions of Down’s babies. 

Here’s why this is seriously questionable…

Down’s babies  ARE at risk before 12 weeks from NIPT screening tests: 

Current pre-natal screening involves what is called a combined test. That is a blood test and an ultrasound, the former at week 10, the latter at week 12 for highest accuracy. This predicts Down’s with up to 94% accuracy. But it is just that, a prediction or probability. The fact is, that a definite diagnosis of Down’s can only achieved through one of two further invasive diagnostic tests: either chorionic villus sampling CVS done from week 11/12  (a needle samples the placenta as the genetic material is the same as the baby’s) or amniocentesis ( a needle is passed into the womb to sample cells from the baby in the amniotic fluid) done around week 15/16.

The fact that definitive proof of Down’s syndrome is only possible through one of CVS or amniocentesis testing, is the rationale for pro-choice arguments that Down syndrome babies will not be at risk of abortion under the government proposals of unrestricted abortion to 12 weeks.

But this does not take into account the phenomenon of NIPT. NIPT, is a non-invasive pre-natal test, a simple blood test believed to be 99% accurate at predicting Down’s Syndrome. Different companies offer this test which costs about 450 euros in Ireland. NIPT can be done at week 9 or 10. Results are back by week 11 at the latest. This is within the limit for unrestricted medical abortions under Irish government proposals up to 12 weeks. One website offering pre-natal testing in Ireland with regards to NIPT states that: “More importantly, the number of women who are required to have invasive testing (amniocentesis or CVS, chorionic villus sampling) after undergoing NIPT is <1%. Please note that if the results of the test show high risk for one of the conditions it does not mean that the fetus definitely has the condition, although it is highly likely. So in the event of a high risk result we strongly recommend amniocentesis or CVS.”

If a woman who does not wish to have a Down syndrome baby has a positive NIPT test which is 99% accurate at predicting Down’s by 11 weeks, will she opt to wait for the invasive testing or perhaps just proceed with an abortion under the 12 week limit? Is it not likely that she might feel that statistic is enough to proceed? 

The NHS are currently evaluating NIPT to see if it can be incorporated into pre-natal screening and note that it may eventually replace current testing, becoming effectively both a screening and diagnostic test in one. While NIPT is confined to those who can pay for now, this is not negligible as private pre-natal screening centres would not be flourishing otherwise. If NIPT goes main-stream, Down’s abortions could happen in the 11th week if GP visits can be arranged.

For a beautiful view if you haven’t already seen these two videos of how life with Down’s syndrome can be, have a look at the following:

64 days to go….Mass Appeal….Down Syndrome Advocacy Groups….Fight

to May 25th and the referendum on whether to repeal the pro-life 8th amendment to the Irish constitution which gives equal right to life to mother and child in Ireland.  Today the parliament passed the second stage of its abortion proposals.

Yesterday we discussed Sr. Briege McKenna’s appeal for Masses to be said privately or publicly in parishes in reparation for Ireland’s turning from God and for protection of the 8th amendment. Please consider getting Masses said locally or through this link to ACN:
http://www.acnireland.org/masses or call 01 837 7516.

Alternatively can you with other parishioners organise one or more Masses / half-days or days of prayer?

Down Syndrome Advocacy Groups….Fight.

Yesterday the 21st of March, was world Down Syndrome day. At the end of January this year,a controversy erupted in Ireland over images of Down syndrome children or adults being used in the debate on abortion. Not images of aborted Down syndrome babies to clarify. But images of Down syndrome people who live their lives like the rest of us.

The call to refrain from using these images came from the advocacy group Down syndrome Ireland. This was surprising at one level. They said:
“This is very disrespectful to both children and adults with Down syndrome and their families. It is also causing a lot of stress to parents. People with Down syndrome should not be used as an argument for either side of this debate.Down Syndrome Ireland believes that it is up to each individual to make their own decision about which way to vote in the upcoming referendum.
We are respectfully asking both sides of the campaign debate, all political parties and any other interested groups to stop exploiting children and adults with Down syndrome to promote their campaign views.
We would also like to remind campaigners on both sides of the debate that people with Down syndrome listen to the news and read media articles, including social media content. We ask that the tone of the debate is respectful towards all people with disabilities.”

9/10 Down syndrome babies diagnosed in utero are aborted in the UK. 98% in Denmark and 100% in Iceland. Michael O’ Dowd of the group ‘Disability voices for life’, said that they would not be silenced. He said: “People with Down Syndrome, people with disabilities are very much to the forefront of terminations that are taking place across Europe.It seems to me that Europe is almost sleepwalking into a situation where people with Down’s Syndrome will no longer be visible.” Michael continued:
“The campaign against us has been quite disturbing. During the debate in the Citizen’s assembly, I heard no voices challenging that recommendation or talking about how upset they were then. The Oireachteas committee (the cross-party health committee whose task was to study the recommendations of the citizen’s assembly and make their own recommendations on behalf of the Irish government)  happily spoke about disability without inviting any representative organization in to counter the negative stereotypes that were being portrayed. Yet now when we as parents dare to challenge the real probability regarding termination of lives of people with disabilities we hear objections.”

The call by Down Syndrome Ireland to keep Downs out of the debate is ironic in that if Down’s does end up being screened out here through abortions, they will cease to exist. But maybe that’s too long term for them to be concerned about either from the point of view of their own jobs or the future of the Irish Down Syndrome community.

While it is understandable ‘Down Syndrome Ireland’ might worry about uncomfortable conversations emerging if Irish citizens with Down syndrome see and question why it’s a hot topic, it is noteworthy that they stayed silent when the citizen’s assembly, voted to permit abortion of Down’s babies diagnosed in utero to 22 weeks. The oireachtais / cross-party parliamentary committee later stated that there would be no specific ground for non-fatally disabled babies being aborted which pro choice activists are quoting left, right and centre to reassure the Irish that Down’s babies would be safe under this proposed legislation. But significantly no ban on Down’s babies being aborted will exist either…So does that matter?

Again, it cannot be overstated: 9/10 Down syndrome babies diagnosed in utero are aborted in the UK. 98% in Denmark and 100% in Iceland, 77% in France, 67% in the USA. And that is before the phenomenon of NIPT goes main-stream across the western world. NIPT or non-invasive pre-natal testing, is a simple screening blood test that predicts Down’s syndrome with 99% accuracy. It’s expensive and available privately in most countries, but the transition to a standard part of public health care is happening in some countries and the trend is one way.

At present, in Germany where there is no ground for abortion of non-fatal disabilities but no ban either (as is being proposed in Ireland) again, 9/10 Down’s babies diagnosed in utero, the vast majority of cases, after 12 weeks of pregnancy, are aborted but under the mental health risk ground. Just like the mental health risk ground being proposed here for abortions after 12 weeks and with no upper limit in law.

For a look at how Down’s babies are being screened out of the Icelandic population entirely, look at this CBSnews report:

 

 

65 days to go….Mass appeal…Sr. Briege: ‘once we allow abortion….our country is finished.’

to the May 25th proposed referendum on Ireland’s pro life 8th amendment to the constitution which gives equal right to life to mother and child.
Yesterday we mentioned Sr. Briege McKenna, the nun who has a worldwide ministry to priests and healing and how she has called for as many Masses to be said as possible for Ireland and the protection of the 8th.

On August 7th last year, Sr. Briege spoke on the forthcoming referendum on the 8th amendment. Have a listen to her appeal to Irish catholics to stand up and be counted to stop abortion on demand coming here….

Sr Briege, has separately urged that as many Masses as possible be celebrated, because when we offer up Jesus in the mass we offer His infinite merits to the Father and this is the most effective form of intercession…hence this website / facebook campaign and an S.O.S. call to catholics worldwide:
Please privately either locally, or through Aid to the Church in Need’s link http://www.acnireland.org/masses/ have Masses said in reparation for Ireland’s turning from God and the protection of the 8th amendment.

Another option, is to publicly as a community in your parish, organise one or more specific days / half days of prayer if possible including Masses of reparation and for protection of the 8th. If you could consider fasting, if medically safe, even from one meal once a week, that the horror that is abortion and the media corruption be exposed here in Ireland?

Please do keep in touch and let us know if you are getting private or public Masses said through our contacts page…and of course: like and share us on facebook 🙂 https://www.facebook.com/irishunborn/

The Mass and Fast for Ireland Team.

66 days to go….Mass appeal….Media manipulation

to May 25th, the proposed date for a referendum on abortion in Ireland to remove the pro-life 8th amendment to the constitution which gives equal right to life to mother and child.

The  most recent manipulation of the tragic death of Savita Halappanavar by the Irish government and media:

Ireland has one of the lowest maternal mortality rates in the world without abortion, despite the death of Savita Halappanavar in 2014 which is often used to promote abortion on demand here. This, despite the fact that 3 independent reports showed she died from overwhelming sepsis from a rare bacterium that had never been seen in an Irish maternity hospital before and from a series of oversights by medical and nursing staff. While noone knew that Savita was harbouring a deadly bug with a high mortality rate until late in her admission in part due to the oversights identified in the official reports, the fact that she requested an abortion on admission when told that miscarriage would be inevitable, has been used to suggest that on demand abortion would have saved her life.

Even the the then president-elect Federation of obstetric and gynaecological societies of India Professor Divakar said that: “Based on information in the media, in that situation of septicaemia, if the doctors had meddled with the live baby, Savita would have died two days earlier.” Dr. David Walsh the IVF specialist of the SIMS clinic here also explained on a current affairs programme in the aftermath of Savita’s death, that making a decision to actively intervene or adopt a wait and see approach can be a tricky balancing act (it’s thought that once uterine infection is present, instrumentation of the womb can accelerate spread of the infection but waiting too long can be dangerous)  . The presumption that an abortion would have saved Savita is debated by medics.

Yet only today, Mary Lou McDonald, the leader of Sinn Fein, the Irish republican party, like others before her, mentioned the death of Savita as one of the grounds for promoting abortion on demand in Ireland. Our health minister, Simon Harris: said: ” we remember you Savita” when speaking in parliament and promoting abortion on demand here.

The shamelessness of the media / government bias in Ireland:

The level of media bias and collusion with pro-abortion organisations here and our aggressively pro-abortion government, means that pro-life voices are constantly drowned out in print and media.

In one study a few years ago, in one fortnight in the print media, there were 33 articles for abortion and only one against it. Recently,the cross-party parliamentary committee on health tasked with making recommendations on the 8th amendment here in Ireland, proposed unrestricted medical abortion to 12 weeks and decriminalisation to full term on the same mental health / social abortion ground as the UK, with no ban on Down syndrome abortions to birth, subject to medical opinion. The mental health ground is responsible for 98% of nearly 9 million abortions in the UK. The chair-woman, Catherine Noone of the cross-party committee, brazenly stated that they couldn’t locate one pro-life doctor to address the committee. She was publicly commended for her excellent work as chair by the Irish prime-minister and ex-medic Taoiseach Leo Varadkar. This resulted in ‘Doctors for Life’ sending her a 100 euro voucher for a popular opticians here. Her response? She tweeted it was ‘spin’.

What can be done in the face of such a level of determined misinformation?
Sr Briege McKenna, the famous nun with a worldwide healing ministry fundamentally urges Masses be celebrated because when we offer up Jesus in the mass we offer His infinite merits to the Father and this is the most effective form of intercession…hence this website / facebook campaign and an S.O.S. call to catholics worldwide:
please privately locally, or through Aid to the Church in Need’s link http://www.acnireland.org/masses/ or publicly as a community in your parish, organise one or more specific days of prayer / Masses of reparation and consider fasting even from one meal, for Ireland’s loss of faith and protection of the 8th amendment, that the horror that is abortion and the media corruption be exposed. Please keep in touch and let us know whatever you do through our contacts page…and of course: like and share us on facebook 🙂 https://www.facebook.com/irishunborn/

The Mass and Fast for Ireland Team.

67 days to go…St. Joseph, defender of the unborn and patron of a happy death pray for us….

Today the feast day of St. Joseph, the foster-father of Jesus, please consider hosting a day / half day of prayer including Mass and fasting in reparation for Ireland’s turning from God and for the protection of the pro-life 8th amendment to the Irish constitution.
This is a very moving sermon about the remarkable life of one of Priests for Life’s team: Fr. Stephen Imbarrato, who prior to his reversion having lost a child through abortion, reverted to the faith just before his own father’s untimely death from cancer. He later adopted a son as a single father who in turn married and raised his own family but tragically lost his life to suicide. Fr. Imbarrato explores the theme of fatherhood in his own family life and spiritual life as a priest of God.
Beautiful and moving account by a mystic of the last hour of St. Josepah patron saint of a happy death.
Through the tragedy and pain of loss in Fr. Stephen’s own life, God’s power unfolds…

The great pope: Pope Leo XIII composed this beautiful prayer to St. Joseph as part of his encyclical on this great saint: Quamquam pluries, which he recommended be prayed at the end of the Rosary of our Blessed Lady: It is very much a pro life prayer. Let’s invoke St. Joseph in the remaining days of our countdown to the Irish referendum scheduled for May 25th this year on abortion.

To you, O blessed Joseph,
do we come in our tribulation,
and having implored the help of your most holy Spouse,
we confidently invoke your patronage also.

Through that charity which bound you
to the Immaculate Virgin Mother of God
and through the paternal love
with which you embraced the Child Jesus,
we humbly beg you graciously to regard the inheritance
which Jesus Christ has purchased by his Blood,
and with your power and strength to aid us in our necessities.

O most watchful guardian of the Holy Family,
defend the chosen children of Jesus Christ;
O most loving father, ward off from us
every contagion of error and corrupting influence;
O our most mighty protector, be kind to us
and from heaven assist us in our struggle
with the power of darkness.

As once you rescued the Child Jesus from deadly peril,
so now protect God’s Holy Church
from the snares of the enemy and from all adversity;
shield, too, each one of us by your constant protection,
so that, supported by your example and your aid,
we may be able to live piously, to die in holiness,
and to obtain eternal happiness in heaven.

Amen.

WHAT CAN YOU DO TO HELP STOP ABORTION IN IRELAND?
Please can you PRAY without ceasing and also FAST for the rest of this lent and afterwards until May 25th, any medically safe way you can, at least once a week: that the abortion juggernaut that is International Planned Parenthood (the umbrella body for all abortion providers worldwide with a revenue of 1.4 billion in its US affiliate alone 2016) will not succeed in at least one country…… Ireland in spite of the phenomenal pressure and media and government manipulation here.

In the mystical body of Christ, this is an appeal to all catholics worldwide, to HAVE MASSES CELEBRATED (we are aiming for 1000 overseas to match 1000 at home) in reparation for Ireland’s turning away from God which brought us to this point and to save the Irish constitution’s pro-life 8th amendment. Please consider organising with your parishes around the world, to have one or more Masses celebrated publicly of reparation for Ireland’s turning from God and protection of the 8th amendment.

Alternatively please arrange one or more Masses privately for the above intentions. To facilitate this process, consider the link below: Aid to the Church in Need Ireland / A.C.N. Ireland, which is part of a worldwide organisation that helps the universal and persecuted Church at the coalface. Born or unborn, your prayers and practical support build up the body of Christ in our universal Church and remember, God is never outdone in generosity.

(a): call Anne or Claire at Aid to the Church in Need’s office in Glasnevin, Dublin, Ireland on 01 837 7516
0035318377516 international.
(b): email your request along with your phone number to masses@acnireland.org
(c): Visit the web page: http://www.acnireland.org/masses/

IMPORTANT:
Whether privately with a local priest, through Aid to the Church in Need’s Mass offering service or if you are organising a prayer service / vigil or parish Mass / Masses for this intention with your parish priest, we’d be very grateful if you would email us on our contacts page and let us know what you are doing so we can keep a record of all initiatives.

(Of note, as with all Mass stipends, a suggested offering of ten euro supports a priest who is spreading the gospel in an imporverished / dangerous part of the world, sometimes where there is no financial support at all for a priest on the ground. He will celebrate Mass for your intentions, in this case: reparation for Ireland and protection of the pro-life 8th amendment to the Irish constitution. Of note: ACN Ireland will support anyone with limited means to have a Mass celebrated on their behalf.)

Thank you, God Bless you

The Mass and Fast for Ireland Team.

68 days to go….

Urgent appeal to all catholics worldwide: 68 days to go…..

Mass and Fast for Ireland:
Can you assist us in having 1000 Masses of Reparation celebrated for Ireland and to protect the pro-life 8th amendment to the constitution under enormous attack at present.

It is expected that on May 25th, just 68 days from now, Ireland will vote on whether or not to repeal the pro-life 8th amendment to the Irish constitution (which ensures equal right to life to mother and child) and replace it with one of the most extreme liberal abortion regimes in the world, with of note: NO UPPER LIMIT proposed in law on mental health grounds. The mental health ground, ground C, is in fact social abortion and 98% of almost 9 million abortions in the UK since 1967 have been done under this ground. While there still exists an upper limit of 24 weeks for abortions in the U.K. with normal pregnancies (disabled births may be done to birth), the Irish government currently proposes no such limit, so decriminalization to birth .
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Please can you PRAY without ceasing and also FAST for the rest of this lent and afterwards until May 25th, any medically safe way you can, at least once a week, that International Planned Parenthood’s abortion juggernaut (revenue of 1.4 billion in its US affiliate alone 2016) will not succeed in at least one country… Ireland despite the phenomenal pressure and media and government manipulation here.

In the mystical body of Christ, this is an appeal to all catholics worldwide, to have Masses celebrated (we are aiming for 1000) in reparation for Ireland’s turning away from God and to save the Irish constitution’s pro-life 8th amendment, either privately, or please organise with your parishes around the world, to have one or more Masses celebrated publicly preferably with a group / parish fast.

Alternatively please arrange an individual Mass of reparation for Ireland and protection of the 8th amendment, through the link below to Aid to the Church in Need Ireland / A.C.N. Ireland, a worldwide organisation that helps the universal and persecuted Church at the coalface.

(a): call Anne or Claire at Aid to the Church in Need’s office in Glasnevin, Dublin, Ireland on 01 837 7516
0035318377516 international.
(b): email your request along with your phone number to masses@acnireland.org
(c): Visit the web page: http://www.acnireland.org/masses/

IMPORTANT:

Whether privately with a local priest, through Aid to the Church in Need’s Mass offering or if you are organising a prayer service / vigil or parish Mass / Masses for this intention with your parish priest, we’d be very grateful if you would email us and let us know what you are doing through our contacts page….

(Of note, as with all Mass stipends a suggested offering of ten euro supports a priest who is spreading the gospel in an imporverished / dangerous part of the world, sometimes where there is no financial support at all for a priest on the ground. He will celebrate Mass for your intentions, in this case: reparation for Ireland and protection of the pro-life 8th amendment to the Irish constitution. Of note: ACN Ireland will support anyone with limited means to have a Mass celebrated on their behalf.)

The Mass and Fast for Ireland Team.
p.s.:

Have a look at this fantastic sermon on Ireland’s heritage and what is at stake in the forthcoming referendum from 5 minutes and 37 seconds, https://youtu.be/WCK3tD3tUq0by

69 days to go…

69 days left

to the proposed date for a referendum on Ireland’s pro-life 8th amendment to the constitution on May 25th. If the 8th is repealed we have de facto decriminalization of abortion up to full term based on what’s been proposed to date. If the 8th is saved, we keep an equal right to life of mother and baby and one of the lowest maternal mortality rates in the world. Please fast weekly any medically safe way you can, organise one or more parish Masses / prayer vigils in reparation for Ireland’s loss of innocence that has brought us to this juncture and especially for the protection of Irish babies from another slaughter of the innocents.